Most never thought they would see this in America, secret trials, prosecutor involved as judge and no defense allowed. How can this be? How can a President be such a bad guy that he is prosecuted on one charge or another since he took office? What is going on with our country?
Most Americans believe in a fair trial where each side presents the evidence and 12 fair minded citizens then vote, with all 12 needed to convict. Here we have a jury of democrats who said he is guilty of high crimes before any evidence is even presented. The other group sitting in the court room has no say. In this case only one side counts.
How can people who have sworn to support the constitution completely disregard our system of fair justice. When you hear them on the campaign trail all but a very few say that they believe in a fair trial yet when it comes to a vote, they vote no. No to an open hearing, no to a defense, no to a concurrence on the evidence and no fairness.
Hearings behind closed doors and they keep fishing hoping to find something, anything. It is hard to believe that all democrats condone this kind of treatment. Yet when the vote came up only two were brave enough to vote against this type of trial.
America has come to a decision point, the rule of law or mob rule. It is true the mob is big and loud. The Republican side is quiet like maybe they would just as soon lose. Some of them might just like the system of elite privilege. The case of Joe Biden is just a good example, where people in power use their influence to enrich themselves or their family. These elitists think they know better than the people and so they deserve the fruits of power.
Is this what the people wanted and voted for? The Russian charges were ridiculous and cost about 40 million dollars to prove they were ridiculous. Now we have secret trials where some of the testimony is leaked to hurt the accused. Testimony to support the President strangely doesn’t seemed to get leaked. The judge is the main accuser and he sets all the rules, is that the way we hold trials in America?
Maybe it is time to split the country, into those who want to oversee our lives and those who just want to be left alone. Three countries ought to do it. West Coast, Heart land and East Coast. Think about how nice that could be, the west coast could be Washington, Oregon, California and Hawaii. The coast to about 75 miles inland. East Coast; New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and some others who want to go with the crowd. Any state could pick their group.
The country is just too big and too many people so let’s break it down to a manageable size. This could be an amiable divorce, the Soviet Union did it and it worked out fairly well. The armed forces might be the only problem, Navy could split with the coasts and get half each, each can have their own army and air force split three ways. The problem solved.
Well, Mike, you are certainly living in a different world than I am. I see a Congress following the Constitution with closed hearings (Just as the Republicans under Trey Gowdy held on Benghazi). I see that there will now be open hearings (not a trial) so that all can hear testimony. I see that the committees holding hearings have 45 Republicans represented on them, Republicans who can question the testimony of the witnesses. I see that you are using the line that Mr. Trump and his supporters are using–a false narrative. I see that if the Congress votes to impeach the President, the trial will be held in the Republican controlled Senate. I see that Mr. Trump, as his chief of staff said before the election, is a “terrible human being” who exhibits bad behavior and threatens our very existence as a country, a man who uses his power to withhold bipartisan granted aid so that he can protect his own political future, a man who has no knowledge of history, who is ignorant of our relationships with allies and foes. I see a Republican party that uses its majority to gerrymander voting districts to favor Republicans (Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio to some extent, etc.), a party that turns its back on good candidates, John McCain, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, in order to back a man totally unsuited to be the President of the United States. (Really! a man who disparages John McCain! and other honorable military men.
Yes, I fear for this country because we see religious groups that overlook the evil in order to get what they want in the Supreme Court. I throw back their own Biblical quote: “What doth it profit a man (country) to gain the whole world and lose his (its) soul?” And now you make it complete–split the country! Of course most of the wealth would be in the “left coast” and the Eastern “elites” while the middle of the country where the fewest taxpayers live would “thrive”! Ha! It is strange indeed to see how far apart we are–how a man like Trump could be President of the United States.
Patrick, I must of miss it it because I don’t know what the cities produce. Oil, Minerals, steel, food, wood manufactured goods or maybe it is just money manipulation, million dollar condo. stock deals and street people. What does the city of; New York provide or Chicago or Los Angles?
They provide ideas, research, capital, education, culture, and high paying jobs. They also own the farms, mines, forests and other natural resources. Also, have you forgotten that California is the salad bowl of the US. Hundreds of trucks go up I-15 every day with produce headed East. Look at Nevada. The money is in Vegas and Reno. There is only sand and gravel in the red parts of the state.
I am laughing so hard that tears are coming down my cheeks. Did you read the Mueller report? Trump and his campaign had hundreds of contacts with Russians. Trump is under the control of Putin. Is that OK with you? The Ukraine fiasco is another Putin order. We should be providing as much aid to the Ukrainians as possible as they are fighting the Russians. Instead, our President withheld aid, thus endangering our national security. If that is not enough for impeachment, we might as well take it out of the Constitution. As for personal enrichment, Trump makes Biden look like a little kid. The king of Me First is in the White House. He is easily the most corrupt person ever. Also, there are no secret trials. All hearings, open and closed, have both parties involved. And, there is no trial going on. They are only gathering facts. Once articles of impeachment are passed, the President can defend himself before the Senate. And lastly, I vote to put Nevada in the West Coast nation.